NonMagical wrote:I think we should compile a list of common locations that are often debated and have something official. I know I am tired of hearing one thing from one person and something else from another.
Examples:
http://yfrog.com/j7deinferno0000ep" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://yfrog.com/j9deinferno0001yp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Neither of those provide significant (exploitative) advantage over another player. In fact the upper ledge one actually requires the player to crouch, causing them to be immobile if shot. They are both legal in leagues, as well. The 40cal Inferno map has spots humans can teleport on roofs, too. I have seen some admins complain, and I have seen other admins
take part in the act.
http://yfrog.com/emdedust20000rlp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You can see over the ledge if you jump and choose to abuse it.
http://yfrog.com/j9dedust20001rcp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Similar case.
http://yfrog.com/5bdedust20002sp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Similar case but unable to be abused even if they wanted to.
http://yfrog.com/j9dedust240cal0000p" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://yfrog.com/5cdedust240cal0001p" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Both spots allow you to see over the B wall to see people at the room above cat, but you aren't seeing THROUGH any walls. I would argue you should be able to see over that wall, anyway. That's like saying looking over a fence is wall hacking. And even still you can't really even see over the wall into those windows anyway (I've never even noticed you could until I took that 2nd screenshot)
Are these considered ledging? these are the types of instances, including being on rooftops or any upper part of the maps that I personally consider NOT ledging, So long as you are NOT exploiting and looking over the walls. Although you do have an advantage its not a "incredibly unfair advantage" as stated by belcross. You are still visible. Since everyone knows you have these powers everyone knows a undead or human can access areas most cant. So as this guy asked and noone really replied, are these places ok? Are places like the rooftop of assault_upc thats higher then the rest ok? Is it ok to climb the rocks on nuke? So long as I cant see through walls or cheat? Leaving it up to the admins causes confusion I would like a clear definition if possible, for everyones sake?
(personally I think its much easier to explain as you can go where you please as long as you cant see through walls or become invisible to other players [other then human invis obviously])
Seems like more of a hassle worrying about someone being in a strange spot that seems normal to the map (ie rooftops)
I notice there are replies to other pictures posted on here but none of the other picture links work anymore just this guys.. Just wondering if hes in a ok spot or if any spots like this are ok? What do I tell people? =D
Post Thought: I can understand the spots where you CAN jump to get an advantage being completely off limits but the spots that you cant? Whats wrong with a height advantage? why is that considered incredible?